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Has anyone signed up or done this program? It looks absolutely perfect for where i hope to land eventually, but I am not sure if I should go with a regular Doula course first or not. Since Doulas are still pretty new to the lay vocabulary, would monitrice even register for potential clients?
Thoughts?
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Wendie
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I work as a doula and as a monitrice and so I explain on my website what the differences between the two are. I think you may find a market for it, it may just take some education in the community on it.
Erika, what I am confused about is how you learn some of the skills, particularly cervical checks in a distance program. Do you have a link to your website? I'd love to take a look at how you describe the differences between doula & monitrice.
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Erika, what I am confused about is how you learn some of the skills, particularly cervical checks in a distance program. Do you have a link to your website? I'd love to take a look at how you describe the differences between doula & monitrice.
Excellent question! We (I am a trainer for Birth Arts International) are going to be offering skills weekends for people to get the skills signed off. Or, people can find people within their communities to teach them the skills as well. Certainly a long weekend won't be able to teach everything to an expert level, just a entry-level. Things like cervical checks take quite some time to master, so that would be something that would become more reliable with time and practice.
I'm curious where a montrice lands legally... I live in a state where midwives don't have legal status and are prosecuted. I truly want to study midwivery when my children are grown and thought that starting as a montrice would be a good compromise right now... but I'm hesitant because I don't want to open myself up to be prosecuted. I already walk a thin line as an independent doula (not associated with a hospital or group) and have concerns about widening my scope.
On one hand, it would open a dialog with CPs if the parents indicated they were using a montrice... perhaps they might see how a montrice could save money and help their patients achieve their birthing goals... but the cynical side of me says that CPs operate on fear and control and would not appreciate anyone wading into "their" territory.
It really depends on your state and what services you are providing.
Most students enroll to become a midwife's assistant. Most of but not all of our Monitrice students practice overseas.
I would think that to be a qualified monitrice you would have to spend a lot of time with a qualified midwife/OB/Nurse to mentor you. how comfortable would you be to tell a woman she is safe to stay at home with a weekend workshop under your belt? Cervical checks? not such a big deal as there are other ways to access dilation, but heart tones? I just don't see this as a skill that can be picked up over a weekend. IDK I would not trust a certification that did not require mentoring from a qualified individual. From what I could tell from the BIA website they would help you find an apprenticeship but they do not require one.
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I would think that to be a qualified monitrice you would have to spend a lot of time with a qualified midwife/OB/Nurse to mentor you. how comfortable would you be to tell a woman she is safe to stay at home with a weekend workshop under your belt? Cervical checks? not such a big deal as there are other ways to access dilation, but heart tones? I just don't see this as a skill that can be picked up over a weekend. IDK I would not trust a certification that did not require mentoring from a qualified individual. From what I could tell from the BIA website they would help you find an apprenticeship but they do not require one.
Students have to have skills signed off on just like midwifes. Actually the skills training is a lot like the CPM process and we use it as a guide for students wanting to go on.
The training is MUCH longer than a weekend, it is approximately a year with birth attendence requirements, reading, skills attainment and mastery, etc.. The weekend is part of it.
Students seek out local care providers in addition to our training for full skills attainment. Students are mentored, etc.. They can have an apprenticeship, work as a midwive's assistant, work with local EMTs, etc.. we don't say do it this way, but this needs to be done and find a way for it to work for you in your community. Our students have worked with nurses, cpms, cnms, emts, etc.. We want them exceed and excell at labor support, postpartum support and skills.
We have students all over the world and we have to be flexible with houw students learn and attain skills.
Demetria~ I'm very interested in this program and plan on starting in a couple of months. I live in California. I'm extremely fortunate to be able to work with several licensed midwives here in my community. I've already been assisting for almost a year now. My question is, how long does a midwife have to have been licensed for her to be able sign off things for me?
Demetria~ I'm very interested in this program and plan on starting in a couple of months. I live in California. I'm extremely fortunate to be able to work with several licensed midwives here in my community. I've already been assisting for almost a year now. My question is, how long does a midwife have to have been licensed for her to be able sign off things for me?
I think you may have emailed me also, but just to let you know, they just have to be licensed. If they have completed the cpm, cnm, etc.. then that is enough for us. Thanks
I would think that to be a qualified monitrice you would have to spend a lot of time with a qualified midwife/OB/Nurse to mentor you. how comfortable would you be to tell a woman she is safe to stay at home with a weekend workshop under your belt? It is much more than that. It is intensive education, working with a mentor and attaining CPM level skills.
Cervical checks? not such a big deal as there are other ways to access dilation, but heart tones? This is done over time with a mentor, as an apprentice, etc.. Students learn as student midwives learnSame thing, it I just don't see this as a skill that can be picked up over a weekend. IDK I would not trust a certification that did not require mentoring from a qualified individual. From what I could tell from the BIA website they would help you find an apprenticeship but they do not require one.
You have to work with someone closely to have your skills signed off on. Students are geared to have a skill set in the cpm model and skills
You have to work with someone closely to have your skills signed off on. Students are geared to have a skill set in the cpm model and skills
Do you have a list of the skills requirements? I want to attend The Farm Midwifery Assistant Workshop, which isn't far from me, and I'm wondering how many of the clinical skills covered there would fulfill the requirements toward your certification program.
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Erika, what I am confused about is how you learn some of the skills, particularly cervical checks in a distance program. Do you have a link to your website? I'd love to take a look at how you describe the differences between doula & monitrice.
You have to work with a local midwife, nurse, etc.. to sign off on skills, which are NARM skills.
Do you have a list of the skills requirements? I want to attend The Farm Midwifery Assistant Workshop, which isn't far from me, and I'm wondering how many of the clinical skills covered there would fulfill the requirements toward your certification program.
HBAC/Homebirth, Homeschooling, & Hugging Trees
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