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Old 07-24-2006, 04:32 PM   #1
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Nursing Moms are being asked not to nurse at local gyms

On a blistering summer day, Jane Cerussi was discreetly nursing her fussy infant by the pool at an Elk Grove gym, when a manager asked her to move or cover up because other members had complained.
"I never expected something like this to happen in this day and age in Northern California," Cerussi said.
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A similar incident recently at another California Family Fitness gym in Rocklin is calling attention to an often overlooked law protecting a mother's right to breast-feed in public.
Despite the law and studies showing the health benefits of the practice, advocates say what happened in Elk Grove and Rocklin reflects a society still unaccustomed to the sight of nursing mothers in public places.
Last week, the California Women's Law Center sent a letter to the locally owned California Family Fitness chain after the Rocklin woman was told she couldn't breast-feed where she could be seen by other members.
The employee had said breast-feeding in a public area was "offensive" to other gym members, and when the woman complained to a manager she was told that her actions were "disrespectful," according to the letter.
But under a California law enacted in 1997, women are allowed to breast-feed anywhere in public where they're entitled to be present.
"The law is perfectly clear," California Women's Law Center Executive Director Katie Buckland said.
"There is no wiggle room, no gray zone or any ambiguity. On the other hand, not everybody is completely up-to-date on what the law is."
California Family Fitness co-owner Larry Gury said his company reacted by contacting managers at all 13 Sacramento-area clubs, reminding them of a woman's right to breast-feed.
"It's in our employee manual, but it will be reviewed more strongly in our trainings and we'll make a better effort to make our employees and our members aware," said Gury.
The fitness chain also sent a written apology to the mother in Rocklin and will contact Cerussi as well, according to Gury.
"We're very sorry for the incidents," Gury said.
"We understand there may have been some embarrassment, and for that we certainly apologize. We feel really badly about it."
Despite laws in 42 states allowing public breast-feeding, La Leche League International spokeswoman Mary Lofton said incidents like the ones at California Family Fitness are common.
Women recently staged "nurse-ins" at Starbucks stores in Florida and Maryland to protest after employees were accused of asking breast-feeding mothers to leave or cover up more.
Earlier this summer, two incidents involving breast-feeding mothers at Victoria's Secret stores in Wisconsin and Massachusetts prompted a nationwide protest.
"Virtually all of the establishments relent or say, 'We didn't realize it was a law,' and send their apologies and say they will train their staff to be better informed," Lofton said.
Companies and their employees aren't the only ones needing better training about the benefits of breast-feeding, according to Lofton.
"Ironically, exposure is not really the issue," Lofton said, noting that most nursing mothers try to be as discreet as possible. "It's the act of nursing that people are not comfortable with. We have a long history of bottle-feeding in our culture."
Cerussi said she was nursing in the shade, keeping an eye on her daughter swimming nearby, when a manager asked her to cover up with a towel.
"It was like 100 degrees in the shade and I didn't want to suffocate my newborn," she said. "I didn't feel like I was being immodest. I was showing a lot less flesh than the women running around in string bikinis."
Breast-feeding in the United States began to decline in the 1930s after the introduction of infant formula and as women began to give birth in hospitals, instead of their homes, Lofton said.
It reached an all-time low in 1971, when less than 25 percent of women in hospitals began nursing their babies.
Research has shown that human milk not only protects infants from illnesses such as colds, flu and ear infections, but also enhances brain development, according to Lofton.
Today, roughly 70 percent of women nurse their infants while still in the hospital, said Lofton.
The resurgence in breast-feeding has prompted a growing number of public establishments, such as malls and large department stores, to create private areas with comfortable seating for nursing mothers.
Gury said many of his company's newer clubs have lounge areas for nursing mothers who want more privacy. "Breast-feeding is very healthy and very normal," Gury said. "But it is a very sensitive issue. I think that in time, people will become more comfortable with it."
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How infuriating!!! Yet, not very surprising. My good friend has been 'funny' about nursing in public with her 4 month old. Not because she's embarrassed or ashamed but because she's afraid of what she'd do if someone confronted her. Lol She said 'I'd hate to have to set my baby down to kick some a**!'.
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it is such a shame that this crap is still happening
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CALIFORNIA!!! WOW that is the mecca of NIP, I lived in northern cali for 33 years bfed ALL my babies in public and never once had anyone say anything to me..
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She said 'I'd hate to have to set my baby down to kick some a**!'. [/quote]

This was SO funny -- I agree totally!!
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this happened to my doula partner in new york. she was wanted to nurse her twins in the child care room and they told her she could not nurse her babies there, gym policy, she would have to go into the locker room, she refused and started to nurse them, then the manager came in and told her the same thing. it was awful
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CALIFORNIA!!! WOW that is the mecca of NIP, I lived in northern cali for 33 years bfed ALL my babies in public and never once had anyone say anything to me..

I bf for 11 years straight and was born and raised in Northern California. I did have a few instances but handled all of them with correct info and disdain. Nope I never put my baby down and kicked a**, but my words were sharp at times. Like -

talking to the baby, "Boy! That lady sure has some sexual hang ups!" or "NO!! Would you be more comfortable if I fed my baby on the toilet?" and sometimes if we were being given the evil eye and I was with someone like my mom or a girlfreind I would start talking really loud about the benefits and how wonderful bf is and yadda yadda.

OK, I'm a little bit of a smart ass. I got it from my mom. She's really good at raising a stink and I learned from the best.
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this happened to my doula partner in new york. she was wanted to nurse her twins in the child care room and they told her she could not nurse her babies there, gym policy, she would have to go into the locker room, she refused and started to nurse them, then the manager came in and told her the same thing. it was awful

See I'm awful! I would have plopped my butt down on the floor and start nursing again and tell them to call the cops! I have no problem raising a stink about this issue.

And I'm sorry but there is NO WAY to nurse twins discretely. If you do one at a time you have to entertain the other twin and it takes twice as long. Geez! Society needs to get a grip. Boobs are boobs. No big deal...

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I breastfed my dc for 17 months and would do so wherever dc needed it, no matter where we were. I was always as discreet as possible, but we still got the looks and comments and were asked to go someplace else.
Fortunately for me, I knew my rights and held my ground in every instance.
Looks and comments didn't really bother me, but when someone directly approached me, I always responded with something like:
"Would you rather hear screaming because my baby is hungry, or choose not to look at my breasts while I nurse my child?"
I will always refuse to be told to nurse in the bathroom (usually a statement such as "Perhaps we could just move our whole table in there then?" is enough to get the point across), and always informed them of my right to nurse in public and that if they had issues with it they could call whoever they wanted but that I still wasn't going to stop nursing until my child was finished.
Once, at Applebees it was suggested to us (none too politely) that we might feel more "comfortable" moving to another area of the restaurant and I told them that since it was a family establishment, and that we were a family (the only one in the section I might add) that we weren't going anywhere. I also pointed out that the teen across the way was exposing more of her breasts than I ever could by breastfeeding.
I never became heated during these types of interactions. I was always sure of myself and my right under the law to breastfeed whenever my baby was hungry.
It's a shame more women aren't as steadfast in these situations.
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I would have plopped my butt down on the floor and start nursing again and tell them to call the cops! I have no problem raising a stink about this issue.
Me either!
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