CBE??

motherstouchdoula · 09-28-2006, 06:47 PM

Can you teach CB classes and not have your Cert? I know that some doulas/CBEs get their cert with lets say Bradly and kinda make up their own program around that one concept. So if I am certified in Hypnobirth can I blend Hypnobirthing and childbirth ED?? or should I have another Cert of Basic CB?

MothertheMother · 09-28-2006, 07:54 PM

You do not have to be certified to teach childbirth. Even though I am certifying through Lamaze I can teach anything I want. BUT, if I want to advertise as Lamaze classes I have to follow their guidelines. I think this might be a question for Hypnobirthing people. I would assume they are the same in that if you call it Hypnobirthing you have a certain guidline to follow? If you just want to make up a great name that is all your own I think you can teach anything you want!

MothertheMother · 09-28-2006, 07:55 PM

How about Relaxation Birthing!

motherstouchdoula · 09-28-2006, 08:50 PM

Christy I love that NAME!!!!! Thanks so much for the info

MothertheMother · 09-28-2006, 08:53 PM

Man I need to start charging people for this stuff HAHAHAHHA

AussieDoula · 09-28-2006, 09:07 PM

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Man I need to start charging people for this stuff HAHAHAHHA

Christy is right. As with Doula work, there is no requirement to be certified to teach childbirth education (or infant massage, or baby care, or a myriad of other topics related to the birthing world).

She made a great point about adhering to guidelines when you become certified through someone but being able to work around that by marketing your classes under another name (for example, I teach the 5 S' in my infant care classes but I am not affiliated with Dr Karp nor have I taken The Happiest Baby course - so I call it something different and change some of the instruction, though it is basically the same thing

).

I think 'Relaxation Birthing' is a great alternative name that you can work with and tweak your classes to become an ecclective reflection of your own style.

Good luck mama!

MothertheMother · 09-28-2006, 10:02 PM

I also think it is a better description of the method. I believe hypnosis carries a stigma because most people don't realize it is all about relaxation. I believe a name like this might appeal to more mainstream mamas that wouldn't look twice at hypnobirthing...I can't wait to hear where you go with this!!!

capandcradle · 09-30-2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by motherstouchdoula

Can you teach CB classes and not have your Cert? I know that some doulas/CBEs get their cert with lets say Bradly and kinda make up their own program around that one concept. So if I am certified in Hypnobirth can I blend Hypnobirthing and childbirth ED?? or should I have another Cert of Basic CB?

Many taught while they were enrolled in teacher certification programs, actually many programs require a certain number of teaching hours.

You've gotten some good responses -- it depends on the group you've chosen. One thing that gets my goat, though, Lamaze (R) classes are supposed to be 12 hours in length and one hospital has these lam-o-rama classses that are, like 6 hours, taught by an LCCE. The LCCE hates doing that and clarifies that she's Lamaze certified but these are not "Lamaze" classes.

emmabella · 10-01-2006, 02:04 AM

This is one of the main reasons why I chose to certify through ICEA. You are not restricted at all in regards to curriculum. I love that I can pull all the best stuff from each of the different "styles" and make it my own.

~Tranquility~Doula · 10-01-2006, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by motherstouchdoula

Can you teach CB classes and not have your Cert? I know that some doulas/CBEs get their cert with lets say Bradly and kinda make up their own program around that one concept. So if I am certified in Hypnobirth can I blend Hypnobirthing and childbirth ED?? or should I have another Cert of Basic CB?

If you afe certified in Leclaire's hypnobirthing then this is something you'll have to find out from her. In both HypnoBirthing and Hypnobabies you can't add any other type of CBE to the program, you have to teach it as is. Fortunately, Hypnobabies is such a terrific childbirth education program with hypnosis techniques that there is no reason to add anything else. I wish I could say that for the other.

motherstouchdoula · 10-01-2006, 10:40 AM

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If you afe certified in Leclaire's hypnobirthing then this is something you'll have to find out from her. In both HypnoBirthing and Hypnobabies you can't add any other type of CBE to the program, you have to teach it as is. Fortunately, Hypnobabies is such a terrific childbirth education program with hypnosis techniques that there is no reason to add anything else. I wish I could say that for the other.

I haven't turned in my paperwork yet for Leclaire but the packet doesn't say anything about "blending" maybe that is something we talk about during our 20 min interview

Thanks for the info ladies you are wonderful as always!!!

jesscardona · 10-17-2006, 11:19 AM

Okay.. I've been reading this thread.. so, you don't have to be a certified CBE, but you can't go around saying and promoting yourself as a CBE? right?
I mean if so then what are the advantages of being certified? the reason I ask is b/c I'm gonna start looking in to this..

ctowndoula · 10-17-2006, 03:26 PM

I became a LCCE b/c I had taught so many hours (and could document it) that I was allowed to sit for the exam.

That being said, I don't think all doulas should be CBEs

. I clarify in my Labor Doula trainings that what I am teaching them in how to support women and how to work on communication with clients; not teaching.

Penny Simkin has a great quote, somthing about "Doulas are trained in support and effective communication...not education".

If you are going to teach CBE with only your Doula creditials (and I have done it so I am not saying it can't or shouldn't be done) you NEED TO KNOW YOUR STUFF. Learn about different learning styles and how to teach to each one. Learn how to handle class room dynamics (quiet or class clown types). Know how to teach evidence-based classes so CPs can't come back and get mad about what you teach...the list goes on.
You can do it, I would still suggest a good training course even if you don't finish the certification process.

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AussieDoula · 10-17-2006, 03:46 PM

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Okay.. I've been reading this thread.. so, you don't have to be a certified CBE, but you can't go around saying and promoting yourself as a CBE? right?
I mean if so then what are the advantages of being certified? the reason I ask is b/c I'm gonna start looking in to this..

As with Doula work, certification for CBE is really a personal choice. What is important however is the training process. Just as Doulas benefit from training, so too do Childbirth Educators. Find a comprehensive course (or self-study) and learn the important things (as ctown already mentioned - there are three main learning styles and you need to know how to teach for each type, you must remain current with evidence-based research and information, how to effectively communicate with people from diverse backgrounds, know your physiology, procedures, and so much more) and then decide whether or not you want to certify. You may find that certification will not benefit you in any way and choose not to certify if it will not hinder your success as a CBE. Perhaps you would like to work in a hospital environment, in which case it would probably be better to certify (some hospitals will even carry your certification costs).

As Doulas we do provide information to our mamas, but that is just the tip of the iceburg when it comes to running with that and teaching in a class atmosphere.

Don't be disappointed if you find out that Childbirth Education isn't for you - some Doulas excel in one main field and there's nothing wrong with that (for example: some Doulas are better at birth than postpartum work - this also rings true for some midwives who aren't great Doulas... we don't need to be everything for our mamas and it's okay to concentrate on one specific area of support).

Good luck!

MothertheMother · 10-17-2006, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jesscardona

Okay.. I've been reading this thread.. so, you don't have to be a certified CBE, but you can't go around saying and promoting yourself as a CBE? right?
I mean if so then what are the advantages of being certified? the reason I ask is b/c I'm gonna start looking in to this..

Just like being a doula you could be self taught and teach private classes. Some hospitals do hire non-certified childbirth educators but I would guess they are usually nurses. I can't speak for the other childbirth ed organizations but with Lamaze you can advertise yourself as a Lamaze trained Childbirth Educator but it is a big no no to call yourself LCCE (Lamaze Certified Childbirth Educator) until you have completed the course. I think the "rules" are much like the doula "rules" Some educators take a ton of different trainings but never certify with one organization. At the same time some certifications are very easy to get and don't teach evidence-based teaching. Because I felt like I was going in with very limited information I chose Lamaze because I feel it is one of the most comprehensive certifications. You are held to a pretty high standard and I felt I needed that to be sure I was learning everything I needed to know to teach.