Starting to get really stinkin upset with CBI

[BlessedBottomz]

I know I need to calm way down. I don't know if it is the perfectionalist in me or what my deal is, but their materials and testing are starting to make me steam. First, the typos and their stance on international differences really bugs me-it is like they didn't want go back and truly look for misspelled words. Sure, I understand that you say colour and I say color, but spelling students-stundets and saying things like "with the baby's baby lying against the mother's spine" and actually publishing it is really distracting. Second, the answers to some of the questions on their exams are WRONG. I have emailed them twice, but I don't want to keep bugging them everytime I find one in fears that I won't get certified for whatever reason. I just feel as though I've paid too much money to have to deal with little things like this. I badly want to be certified and I am trying really hard to do so. I've heard a lot of great things about CBI and I do love how it is convenient, gives a life long membership, and really thorough, just these few things are crawling under my skin.

Sorry. Okay, I feel a bit better now.

[Acacia]

Yes, the typo's ARE annoying lol..That was my main complaint because they are EVERYWHERE and very obvious. It was lamost as if they were rushed to get it done and didn't read through it a few more times before sending it to the printer.

s far as the test's...what questions are you saying are wrong? Pm them or list them here and maybe some of us CBI certified doula's can help you out.

[Kacy]

The typos are very annoying, yes. I just laughed about them and moved on, although I'm a huge grammar and spelling freak as well. I especially liked when they spelled "AIDS" as "AID's". Teehee. Gave the studying a bit of levity.

I thought I got a question right when it was marked wrong, and I really just misunderstood it. Maybe that's what's happening? I contacted them to ask why it was wrong, and they cleared it up for me. They're far too professional to withhold certification just because someone asks a question, if that's what you're worried about.

I agree with Julie - post the questions and answers you think are wrong, and maybe we can help you if you don't want to contact them.

[AussieDoula]

From what I understand, CBI gets a lot of email about the typos. As far as I can tell, however, the typos are really at the bottom of the priority pile when it comes to the things they have in the works. Introducing new courses, moving head offices, and other big changes are in progress I believe, so it might be a while before they have the time, finances, and resources to focus on grammar (I agree that this would not have been a problem if care was taken when creating the documents from the start).

I would email Nikki and let her know your frustrations (or send her a PM - she is a member here under the username nikkimac). They can't improve the program without honest feedback, and I am certain they're not going to with-hold your certification because you have emailed them more than once - student support is part of their job.

[demetria]

As a course writer I know typos happen. It can be really hard to keep up with typos, information, etc..
I am sure if an exam answer is wrong they want to know and as with any professional organization you shouldn't have to worry about certification because you see them and let them know. I am sure they are grateful for the assistance.
I know at BAI we update monthly it seems finding new errors, etc..
Good luck with your studies.
Demetria Clark

[tlcdoula]

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Originally Posted by AussieDoula From what I understand, CBI gets a lot of email about the typos. As far as I can tell, however, the typos are really at the bottom of the priority pile when it comes to the things they have in the works. Introducing new courses, moving head offices, and other big changes are in process I believe, so it might be a while before they have the time, finances, and resources to focus on grammar (I agree that this would not have been a problem if care was taken when creating the documents from the start). I would email Nikki and let her know your frustrations (or send her a PM - she is a member here under the username nikkimac). They can't improve the program without honest feedback, and I am certain they're not going to with-hold your certification because you have emailed them more than once - student support is part of their job.

That might be the case, but I think all the typos speaks volumes to their "professionalism" and pride in the work that they do.

[brilliant]

are these typos online or in the printed version? i'm only using the online readings and i haven't noticed many typo's yet. and i'm the biggest snob when it comes to spelling and grammar....

[amymaew]

They've fixed all of the ones online that I can tell - it's just in the printed matter that there's still typos. What quiz questions were wrong?

[SabbathD]

nope, still a LOT of typos online. I just look past em.

[SabbathD]

I'd rather them focus on getting that postpartum doula and lactation educator training up and running, LOL!!!

[BlessedBottomz]

For quiz questions, this is what I've found so far (I've completed 4 of them):

Physiology in Pregnancy:
Amniotic fluid embolism is a cause of placental abruption.

Now, it could be in the reading of the question. I read it as placental abruptions cause AFE. But it could also read AFE causes placental abruption. Looking back at it, I think it is the grammar that through me off. I found a lot of information that points to placental abruptions causing amniotic fluid to enter the woman's blood stream. But, if they are asking the other way around, I understand why I got it wrong.

Health and Diet: This one is really confusing me
Which of the following is high in lysine?
Yoghurt (that's how it is spelled in the test)
Almonds
Chocolate
Peanuts

Now, I went to www.herpes.com/nutrition and it has a very clear chart of the lysine in a lot of foods. Yogurt's lysine is listed in the second column. So the highest it gets is 1160mg

<TABLE border=1><TBODY><TR><TH align=left>Plain Yogurt <TD>227 <TD>706 <TD>237 <TD>2.979</TD><TR><TH align=left>Fruit Yogurt, lowfat <TD>227 <TD>810 <TD>272 <TD>2.978</TD><TR><TH align=left>Plain Yogurt, skim <TD>227 <TD>1160 <TD>391 <TD>2.967</TD><TR><TH align=left>Plain Yogurt, lowfat <TD>227 <TD>1060 <TD>359 <TD>2.953</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Here is peanuts:
<TABLE border=1><TBODY><TR><TH align=left>Peanuts <TD>144 <TD>1450 <TD>5050 <TD>0.287 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Isn't 1450mg higher than 1160?

Physiology in Labor and Birth:
Indicate which of the following increases the rish of premature rupture of the membranes? 5 all together
Amniocenteses, Hypertension, Uterine Infection, Oligohydramnios, Plyhydramnios, Smoking, Vaginal Examinations

I could have sworn that hypertension could increase the rish of PROM. Here is what Find Articles has to say:

"Hypertension, diabetes, amnionitis and abruption are linked with PROM through either weakened collagen formation or the effect of bleeding on collagenolysis."

If your client's membranes have ruptured before labor begins, she may wish to take precautions to reduce her risk of serious infection. ...
Avoid vaginal examinations, Avoid using the bathtub, Avoid environments that she is not used to, Avoid sex, Monitor Temperature, Use good personal hygiene.

All of the physicians protocals I read specifically stated nothing in the vagina. But, avoiding sex was the wrong answer. I dunno.

Goal of time for actively managed placenta to come out:
up to 6 min, up to 30 min, up to 1 hr, up to 2 hr

Again, every protocol I read said up to 30 min, but they say 6 min.

I don't want to give the wrong idea. I fully respect this company and I still believe that they have one of the best programs out there for studying and becoming certified, but I want to make sure that the information I am learning is correct.

[amymaew]

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Originally Posted by BlessedBottomz Health and Diet: This one is really confusing me Which of the following is high in lysine? Yoghurt (that's how it is spelled in the test) Almonds Chocolate Peanuts Isn't 1450mg higher than 1160?

Well, it is spelled yoghurt in other parts of the world lol. Like the UK - we spelled it (still do actually) yoghurt when we lived there! I figure that they got that answer - yoghurt instead of peanuts b/c not only was it high in lysine but it was also low in the other thing (the one you want to avoid if you're dealing w/ herpes - drawing a blank) while peanuts were high in both. That's my reasoning lol

[cruzandoula]

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Originally Posted by BlessedBottomz Physiology in Pregnancy: Amniotic fluid embolism is a cause of placental abruption. Now, it could be in the reading of the question. I read it as placental abruptions cause AFE. But it could also read AFE causes placental abruption. Looking back at it, I think it is the grammar that through me off. I found a lot of information that points to placental abruptions causing amniotic fluid to enter the woman's blood stream. But, if they are asking the other way around, I understand why I got it wrong.

I'm not a CBI student, but I think your problem with this question was definitley understanding. The question is saying that AFE causes PA "AFE is a cause of PA".

[Ohio Doula]

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Originally Posted by brilliant are these typos online or in the printed version? i'm only using the online readings and i haven't noticed many typo's yet. and i'm the biggest snob when it comes to spelling and grammar....

I haven't noticed many online either, but I am terrible myself I think they have taken care of those. I haven't gotten my printed version yet.

[Ohio Doula]

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Originally Posted by BlessedBottomz For quiz questions, this is what I've found so far (I've completed 4 of them): If your client's membranes have ruptured before labor begins, she may wish to take precautions to reduce her risk of serious infection. ... Avoid vaginal examinations, Avoid using the bathtub, Avoid environments that she is not used to, Avoid sex, Monitor Temperature, Use good personal hygiene. All of the physicians protocals I read specifically stated nothing in the vagina. But, avoiding sex was the wrong answer. I dunno. .

The question on my test asks "which of the following actions are EVIDENCE BASED for this situation?"
Dr.s may say "nothing in the vagina" but Dr's don't always practice "evidence based medicine"