35 will have post-op hemorrhaging to one degree or another
20 will have other adverse reactions from the procedure
10 will need to have the circumcision surgery repeated to fix prior surgical problems/error
8 will suffer infection at the surgical site
3 will develop post-operative phimosis
2 will have a more serious complication (seizure, heart attack, stroke, loss of penis, death)
1 will be treated with antibiotics for a UTI (urinary tract infection)
Of those who do receive pain medication for the surgery (about 4% of those boys undergoing circumcision in the U.S.) some will have adverse reactions to the pain medication injected
Out of 100 Intact boys:
2 will be treated with antibiotics for a UTI (fewer if the foreskin is never forcibly retracted)
1 will be told to get cut later in life for one reason or another (fewer if the foreskin is never forcibly retracted)"
these stats came from the peaceful parenting group on fb. they weren't credited to any research. do they seem correct to you? the ones i specifically am wondering about are 35% hemorrhaging rate? and the 2% serious complication rate? both seem high to me, but i don't really know for sure.
i am putting together a fact sheet on circ for a couple dads in my classes right now (at their request) and i want to give them as unbiased info as possible (i am personally very much against circ, but try my best to give evidence based info about it to clients)
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I have no idea if the stats are right. :o) However I think it would also be valuable to research stats comparing the in-hospital circ vs the 8-day-old circ... I think for those who DO plan to circumcise, providing that kind of information will also be very valuable. :o) It seems like these stats would be in-hospital (I'm basing this opinion on that 35% hemorrhaging rate) which I always discourage anyways!
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I am not sure how accurate the stats are, but they don't sound incredibly off the mark from the things I have heard and seen around me. I know of so many re-circs and two cases of severe post-op hemorraghing. One baby is going to have to have reconstructive surgery on his penis someday.
What might be of even more interest is to know of what percentage of these babies will grow to be men with sexual dysfunction, reduced senstivity, penises that are painful when erect, bowed penises, adhesions, etc.
I don't know if they are correct, but they certainly reinforce my stance as an intactivist.
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They seem a bit off to me... lots in my area (including my son) are circ'd and I have never heard of one issue (have read of issues of course, just don't know anyone who has had any). If Post-op hemmorage was 35% I would think that would be very widely known and experienced. Would be interested to know where they got their info. For the record, I am neutral about circ'ing... my husband insisted, so my opinion that they are off has nothing to do with being pro-circ.
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Intriguing....It could be how they define "hemmorage." I'm definitely an "intactivist" (love the term Amanda
Roughly half my clients circ, many for religious reasons. I haven't encountered any of these issues, but have heard stories. But, I don't think my client base would be any where near 100 circumcised boys. Keep us posted if you're able to verify these stats.
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I'm pretty neutral about it, myself, and support parents to do whatever they think best. I'm truthfully neither anti nor pro. Most of my clients have chosen to circ so far, however, and I've seen a lot of circ'd babies (mostly breastfeeding) throughout my lifetime. I honestly have not seen any of those complications, either. I do believe that all of those things can happen, but given what I've seen and experienced, I also think that the numbers are probably exaggerated to favor the original author's view. It's really hard to find straight, unbiased information on this topic, I think, especially with the emotion that is often attached. Whenever stats are publicized, they really should be sourced. Since I don't really know for sure of their accuracy/inaccuracy, I personally wouldn't share those stats with any of my clients without being able to credit them to a reliable study. If I had proof of a reliable study showing those stats, then I would be happy to include them in my education binder that I loan to my clients.
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I agree with Lori.... I am neutral. I pretty much do not care what a parent does. I will say I am not anti circ.
I find alot of the stats seem to be some what swayed maybe. And thats normal... look at the doula stats we all post. ( I no longer quote doula stats either..i dont believe them). We all will look for stats that seem to follow our way of thinking.
But I find for each set of statistics or even a study, if we look hard enough we will find studies and stats supporting the exact opposite.
Its not a topic that I cover... unless I am asked about it. Usually its the clients who are choosing to circ and they already have all the info they want and they are just including it in their birth plans.
Since it seems that those doulas who have seen a lot of circs and haven't seen this percentage of problems, do you think it's possible that these stats reflect something worldwide (including some of the 3rd world countries)? Where there is subpar medical care, these stats might reflect a reality.
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