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MotherLoad Junior Member Joined: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:59 pm Posts: 16 Location: Burlington, VT	Sleep Resource for Parents I've been working on providing helpful resources for tired parents for over a year now and based on the feedback I've received (comments/emails) it seems to be pretty useful. I know from personal experience that baby sleep is often one of the most pressing concerns new parents have so I'm posting here because I hope that this might be a good resource for other postpartum doulas and their families. Troublesome Tots \| No more bedtime drama for baby! Please note I don't charge anything, there is no advertising, etc. Just a passion project I hope this helps! _________________ Happy Healthy Moms and Babies www.motherloaddoula.com A baby is an inestimable blessing and bother. - Mark Twain
Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:20 pm

pambell Member Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:44 pm Posts: 447	Can't say that I agree with most of the things I read on this site. Before recommending, definitely read it!
Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:01 pm

MotherLoad Junior Member Joined: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:59 pm Posts: 16 Location: Burlington, VT	Wow. I have to say I'm really surprised by your negative response. I've been working with kids and sleep for years 1:1, have met and consulted with Dr. Karp, consult regularly with the local pediatric sleep MD, and have read pretty much every sleep book on the planet. About 10K people visit my site each month and all I've ever gotten was really positive feedback about how helpful it is. Of course you are entitled to your opinion. But frankly I stand behind my work. _________________ Happy Healthy Moms and Babies www.motherloaddoula.com A baby is an inestimable blessing and bother. - Mark Twain
Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:25 am

1stimestar Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:00 am Posts: 8801 Location: Little cabin in the woods, middle of Alaska.	These are just a few concerns I have over this site. "Pacifier use is encouraged for all newborn babies..." [color="Red"]And it shouldn't be![/color] "In my experience, all babies sleep better in swings. ..." "...embrace the swing." [color="red"]Because it takes away their free will. It FORCES them to sleep. Nothing but formula has been so over used by parents. [/color] "Embrace Your Inner Sleep Nazi" [color="red"]Personal choice here. I simply do not like comparing anything one does not like with being a Nazi. There is no comparison here. Really, you might bone up on your history and read or see on the History Channel what Nazis did. [/color] [color="red"]Then you list several reason why one should absolutely swaddle: [/color] "These are all bunk. You should be swaddling your newborn baby. It will make them and you happier!" I[color="red"]t makes some babies happy but does not work on all babies. Why would you tell a parent to do something that made their babies and hence, themselves miserable. Parents should be encouraged to try different things and then go with what works for them and their baby. Your brush strokes are painting too wide here. I'm not saying that you don't have some good information on your site. Just that it isn't one I would share with my clients. [/color] _________________ Alaska, the Madness Bloggity Stories of a Rockin' Arctic Doula!
Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:19 am

raeben Senior Member Joined: Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:45 pm Posts: 1341 Location: Portland OR	MotherLoad wrote: Wow. I have to say I'm really surprised by your negative response. I've been working with kids and sleep for years 1:1, have met and consulted with Dr. Karp, consult regularly with the local pediatric sleep MD, and have read pretty much every sleep book on the planet. About 10K people visit my site each month and all I've ever gotten was really positive feedback about how helpful it is. Of course you are entitled to your opinion. But frankly I stand behind my work. welcome to the internets, motherload! welcome, to the internets. i am glad that you have read and consulted many people in this field and even received positive feedback from families but when you lay a bunch of statements and opinions in front of a bunch of critical thinkers, it shouldn't be a shock to get a little critical feedback i think G had some great feedback and for my part, i will say that i was turned off by the kind of negative baby portrayals. most of the pictures right now are stock photos of screaming babies and your site name is "Troublesome Tots". the mark twain quote on your siggy doesn't help much by calling babies a bother. now, i totally get it - parenting is difficult and babies with sleep issues aren't as endearing as they should be but it still sends a negative message. if i was a mama looking for pregnancy resources and i found a website called "bitchy mamas" with a lot of images of crazy hormonal pregnant women, i'd probably keep looking and not even read very far to see if the articles were any good or not. same thing for birth, postpartum, breastfeeding or other family resources. overall, thanks for posting your resource, it looks like you have put a lot of time and energy into this project. hopefully the feedback you get here will only help improve what you are already doing for families! blessings.
Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:31 pm

DoulaYvonne Senior Member Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:32 pm Posts: 6137	There is no doubt that no matter what new parent you speak to the issue of sleep will come up in conversation - even if sleep was not what you were talking about initially! Since I think very highly of the Sears' I tend to recommend their Baby Sleep Book or Nighttime Parenting. Not only does this book address practical ways to manage nighttime but it also encourages parents to think about things from their baby's perspective and development. Another book that many families love is Pantley's No Cry Sleep Solution. Gentle and practical solutions. Dr. Karp has many great suggestions in his books and video but parents will often get caught up with the steps (5 S's) and fail to see that their baby is in need of individualized attentions. There is no 'one size fits all'. So, while many babies LOVE swaddling, many babies HATE swaddling too and this can be confusing and frustrating for parents that are unsure of their skills and have a limited knowledge of babies differences. _________________ [color="RoyalBlue"]Y v o n n e Any statements expressed in this forum are mine and are not a representation of any organization I am affiliated with.[/color]
Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:43 pm

MotherLoad Junior Member Joined: Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:59 pm Posts: 16 Location: Burlington, VT	Ah yes - the joy of the internets. Clearly my site is not for you. Although you've taken many quotes out of context, creating a perception which doesn't really reflect the truth I do: - feel passionately that sleep for everybody (parents and baby) is REALLY important - suggest swaddling should be encouraged unless it is absolutely clear that it's not working (too may people swaddle once or swaddle poorly then give up) - believe pacifiers can be a great soothing tool - know that in some circumstances swings can be a Godsend A few more notes? I don't actually use stock photography (who can afford it?) but I'm glad you think my photos look like they were taken by professionals! Also? I have tons of photos of adorably happy babies. Certainly an article discussing reflux or sleep regressions lends itself to crying babies as often people are wondering why their previously happy baby is crying so much. I also have many photos of baby toes for no reasons other than the fact that I really love them. Full disclosure? I think the bestselling book Go the F to Sleep is really funny. I totally get why it's a bestseller. If you think this book is a crime against our children then my site is also not for you. And that's OK. So it's not for you. There you go. _________________ Happy Healthy Moms and Babies www.motherloaddoula.com A baby is an inestimable blessing and bother. - Mark Twain
Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:29 am

1stimestar Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:00 am Posts: 8801 Location: Little cabin in the woods, middle of Alaska.	1stimestar wrote: These are just a few concerns I have over this site. "Pacifier use is [color="Purple"]encouraged for all newborn babies.[/color].." [color="Red"]And it shouldn't be![/color] "In my experience, [color="purple"]all babies sleep better in swings[/color]. ..." "...embrace the swing." [color="red"]Because it takes away their free will. It FORCES them to sleep. Nothing but formula has been so over used by parents. [/color] "Embrace Your Inner Sleep Nazi" [color="red"]Personal choice here. I simply do not like comparing anything one does not like with being a Nazi. There is no comparison here. Really, you might bone up on your history and read or see on the History Channel what Nazis did. [/color] [color="red"]Then you list several reason why one should absolutely swaddle: [/color] "[color="purple"]These are all bunk. You should[/color] be swaddling your newborn baby. It will make them and you happier!" I[color="red"]t makes some babies happy but does not work on all babies. Why would you tell a parent to do something that made their babies and hence, themselves miserable. Parents should be encouraged to try different things and then go with what works for them and their baby. Your brush strokes are painting too wide here. I'm not saying that you don't have some good information on your site. Just that it isn't one I would share with my clients. [/color] MotherLoad wrote: Ah yes - the joy of the internets. Clearly my site is not for you. Although you've taken many quotes out of context, creating a perception which doesn't really reflect the truth I do: Sorry, I've been out working in the wilderness so am only now getting back to your reply. Was this directed at me? I don't believe I took ANYTHING out of context. You say "ALL babies" and "you SHOULD", not something like "most babies" or "try xyz trick or tip as it works well with many babies". And if they don't think or do what you suggest, you call them Nazis, which I find inappropriate. _________________ Alaska, the Madness Bloggity Stories of a Rockin' Arctic Doula!
Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:27 pm

supportingmom Member Joined: Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:30 am Posts: 325 Location: austin, tx.	I haven't read the site yet (I will do that next) but I just had to mention here that I used to be pretty anti paci because it can cause such breastfeeding confusion. I have recently read where several studies linked paci use to a lower rate of SIDS, including the safe sleep report that came out last year. I now recommend that parents introduce a paci after breastfeeding is established. _________________ http://www.AustinBabyGuru.com
Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:19 pm

supportingmom Member Joined: Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:30 am Posts: 325 Location: austin, tx.	I like your site and will keep it in my resources list. I do see how some could find it focusing too much on the negative but at the same time, i know that when my clients are having sleep issues..all they see is negative! You do a pretty good job of explaining what might be causing the problem and offering ideas of how to survive the hard times. I recognized much of the advice I give to my clients mixed in to the advise you give on your site. I also think it is fine to recommend a site that offers advice I agree with, but also offers some differing views. I do think that some of the opinions offered are pretty broad and sweeping but then, you are offering advise to parents over the internet without being in their homes, spending time with their particular baby. Considering this, you do fine in my opinion. _________________ http://www.AustinBabyGuru.com
Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:11 pm

supportingmom Member Joined: Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:30 am Posts: 325 Location: austin, tx.	oh, and while i do not agree with everything on your site, I rarely agree with the majority of what any of the sleep experts write. I just think that you have to look at all of the advise and then get to know the individual families and their babies.then decide which would be the best approach. _________________ http://www.AustinBabyGuru.com
Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:17 pm

Falling Leaves Senior Member Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:08 pm Posts: 1050	i think before recommending anything sleepwise, one should look at all the evidence. my friend with whome i went through the lc formation wrote a book about this, unfortunately, it's not yet translated into english. her family is going the family beds route, like we do. _________________
Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:16 am
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