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FernBel
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Joined: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:03 pm Posts: 111 Location: Manassas, VA
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Hey there, I am between free and $350. I have completed my 3 DONA births and need to finish up the last details, struggling pulling together a resource list, it's very intensive. I am free to our local not-for-profit midwifery, Operation Special Delivery, and Care-Net referred clients. After I am certified I will charge $750 with a military reduction rate of $550. I live in the Northern VA/ DC area where doulas go as high as $1200. There is one that charges $200 down and $35 an hour. (That could go either way for the client or doula's benefit) I ask $250 down and will continue. Those who truly can't afford a doula and want one, I would still work with. I have found my ministry! ~Fern <><
_________________Fern Compton CD(DONA) AAHCC Doula and Childbirth Collaborative Owner www.NOVADoulas.com and www.MaiBebai.com NOVA-DC-SW Maryland Birth Doula, Placenta Encapsulation and Tincture, Belly & Life Casting Services... http://bellabirthchoices.com/...Childbirth Educator http://www.bradleybirth.com?C584In training with CAPPA CLE & CTE (Lactation Educator & Teen Educator) AAMI 2169
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| Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:47 pm |
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FernBel
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Joined: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:03 pm Posts: 111 Location: Manassas, VA
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WestsideDoula wrote: So for everyone who wants to offer huge discounts/free doula services for women in need, here is another way to figure out what you should charge. For one birth: Figure out how much time you will spend before/after the birth, and multiply that by your hourly rate add hard expenses (gas, lattes, gifts,) figure out what you would pay another doula if they had to do the birth and add that Then, figure out all your monthly office expenses (paper, internet, cell phone, office space, etc) and divide that by the number of births you do a month (round down). That will give you the "COST PER BIRTH" Then, you should figure out how many FREE BIRTHS you want to do each year. Your CLIENT LOAD should be the number of births you can take a year. Figure out the cost that you will expend on all births (CLIENT LOAD x COSTS PER BIRTH)= SUM COSTS Take SUM COST- (FREE BIRTHS x COSTS PER BIRTH) = Net charge for paying clients. (your paying clients have to pay for your pro-bono work) Double Your NET CHARGE FOR PAYING CLIENTS and that is your RATE. Using this method, you can discount and do free births when you need to and still earn a living. Love it! Math is not my strong suit, but I may be able to work with this formula. Thank you for sharing this. It also gives us serving our community a way to show our husband's that this is not eating away our familie's money, time, etc. I'm saving my first few paychecks to reinvest in Bradley classes, so excited! Thank you, ~Fern <><
_________________Fern Compton CD(DONA) AAHCC Doula and Childbirth Collaborative Owner www.NOVADoulas.com and www.MaiBebai.com NOVA-DC-SW Maryland Birth Doula, Placenta Encapsulation and Tincture, Belly & Life Casting Services... http://bellabirthchoices.com/...Childbirth Educator http://www.bradleybirth.com?C584In training with CAPPA CLE & CTE (Lactation Educator & Teen Educator) AAMI 2169
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empowered-birth
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Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:23 pm Posts: 55 Location: ferrum, va
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I have attended one birth, and I did not charge (but they sent me a cheese-and-meat basket. not sure what that meant, lol) but I will not do that again. The cost of me driving from my rural home in western VA to the Lake on the other side of town for 3 prenatals and 2 postpartums alone puts me in range to charge! I have 4 children, from 9yo to 1yo, and my plan is to call on 2 friends for childcare, so that's two fees I have to pay out. Another poster, who is from my area (Roanoke) said that in 2009 doulas charged 400-800 dollars. I have thought to start at 250, but after this thread, I am thinking that I will be charging $400 for all my births as I finish my CAPPA certification, then I will up it to at least $500. At present, I offer what everyone else offers: 3 prenatals 24/7 access 2 weeks on either side of due date continuous birth support 2 postpartums (potentially one more if there is a need) email/phone support
I have done mother blessings and belly casts before, but not really at cost. I would like to know more about this!
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| Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:04 am |
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roxanne600
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Joined: Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:31 pm Posts: 155 Location: MA
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My fee is $650, with a sliding scale down to $500.
I'm thinking of raising my rates to $800 for those births in a major city near me. I'm only 45 minutes away from the city, so it's not such a long travel time, but parking at those hospitals is around $40 every time I go. And if the clients live IN the city, then I have to pay to take the T or pay for parking. So in the end, I'm making a lot less than with the other births.
My fee includes 2-3 prenatals, on call 2 weeks before due date, and 2 postpartum visits. I set up the first visit, and I tell mom to save the second for when she needs me and give me a call. I've only been called back for the second visit once.
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| Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:10 am |
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mrsott
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Joined: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:56 pm Posts: 33 Location: Tallahassee, FL
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empowered-birth wrote: I have attended one birth, and I did not charge (but they sent me a cheese-and-meat basket. not sure what that meant, lol) but I will not do that again.
 I can't help but chuckle... a meat and cheese basket!??! Haha... Not laughing at you in ANY WAY WHAT SO EVER!!!! I would throw that to my dog... my FIL got us one, and we are vegetarians... I suppose it is the thought that counts??
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AngieDoula
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Joined: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:49 pm Posts: 348 Location: Seattle, WA (Kent)
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I tried WestsideDoula's formula for figuring out what to charge.
I've tried twice now.
I super struggle with math.
And while I did get a figure a the end, I didn't like the number LOL. At least not until I'm certified and have more local experience.
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Doulamoon
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Joined: Tue May 04, 2010 9:32 pm Posts: 365 Location: North east Scotland
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AngieDoula wrote: I tried WestsideDoula's formula for figuring out what to charge.
I've tried twice now.
I super struggle with math.
And while I did get a figure a the end, I didn't like the number LOL. At least not until I'm certified and have more local experience.
Well you could put your calculated figure on the website, but say a discount of £x is available to people willing to fill out evaluation paperwork for you. In this
way they know your worth your salt but for an hours work on there part it's like a bartered discount.
You should never be out of pocket for gas and food or childcare or wages gained otherwise. Don't sell yourself short and in this way you can charge full whack and if people are looking at twelve weeks then don't book you there and then they know by the time they want you you may have filled all your paper wk discounted spacese. So no surprises in price hike.
Hope this helps.
DM
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| Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:55 am |
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Alessandra
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Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:10 pm Posts: 126 Location: Belo Horizonte, Brazil/ Miami, FL
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Very important Brie+3, that´s what I wanted to say. Brie+3 wrote: Just keep in mind prices are regional because cost of living can vary greatly. Doulas living in New York, San Francisco, LA, Toronto (or any similar metropolitan area) need to charge more to meet their basic living expenses. Doulas living in rural, suburban or smaller metro areas may not need to charge as much because things like housing, gas, etc cost less. And then you have the experience factor. Doulas with lots of experience may charge more than a newer doula. The specialty factor, doulas who have 'specialities' that they incorporate into their practice may charge more as well.
Doulas trying to determine their fee should look at what other doulas in their area are charging and not under charger or over charge based on the average going rate. If they are the first doula in their area, I would strongly encourage them to look at other areas of the country with similar demographics (population, income, average home cost most specifically) and charge in a similar range.
Admittedly, figuring out the right fee can be a trial and error. Too low and no one takes you seriously or values your service, too high and no one will hire you.
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TamaraO
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Joined: Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:59 pm Posts: 9 Location: Abbotsford, BC
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Does anyone do a pricing structure that takes into account labour time? ie. $450 for prenatals, labour of 24 hrs or less, and post natal, and then add $150 if labour goes longer? Just thinking about childcare for my 3 kids... Or does it make more sense just to charge one higher flat fee no matter how long the labour goes on for? Just asking because I can usually manage for one full day well, but two days would be much more expensive and a lot trickier. So far, the longest job I have had has been 18 hrs...
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dorothyh
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:47 pm Posts: 3978 Location: Central NJ
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TamaraO wrote: Does anyone do a pricing structure that takes into account labour time? ie. $450 for prenatals, labour of 24 hrs or less, and post natal, and then add $150 if labour goes longer? Just thinking about childcare for my 3 kids... Or does it make more sense just to charge one higher flat fee no matter how long the labour goes on for? Just asking because I can usually manage for one full day well, but two days would be much more expensive and a lot trickier. So far, the longest job I have had has been 18 hrs... The problem with charging a higher fee if the birth goes over a certain amount of hours is that it will likely delay your clients calling you, which may mean that you don't get a phone call until later in labor, and at that point, your help may not be as effective than if you arrived earlier. Also, your clients may be looking at the clock, especially if it is a long birth, and I really don't want my couples worrying about money for me at their birth. And then what if you have a very short birth - you are more likely to miss the birth because the parents delay calling you (because they don't necessarily know it's going to be short) or you get there very very late in the process, or the parents might expect a refund - if you change more for longer births, they may have the expectation that they should be due a refund for shorter births. I attend approximately 25 births a year. I usually get 1 or 2 a year that go over 24 hours. I just suck it up when it happens and am thankful it doesn't happen more often. OK, I just looked at my stats: The last 25 births I attended: 4 of those births, I was away from home for 4 hours or less. - 16% 4 of those births, I was away between 4 and 8 hours - 16% 6 of those births, I was away between 8 and 12 hours - 24% 5 of those births, I was away between 12 and 16 hours - 20% 3 of those births, I was away between 16 and 20 hours - 12% 2 of those births, I was away between 20 and 24 hours - 8% 1 of those births, I was away over 24 hours. - 4% So out of those births, about 32% I was away from home 8 hours or less. 56% of those births were between 8 and 20 hours. 12% were over 20 hours. 76% were 16 hours or less. I DO have in my contract that I do reserve the right to call in a backup after 24 hours. I have never done that. If I did, I would call my business partner and pay her out of my fee, or else strike up a deal with her that I'll do the same for her at the next 24 hour + birth that she attends.
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| Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:36 am |
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WestsideDoula
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Joined: Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:13 am Posts: 536 Location: Los Angeles, CA, actually I live in Culver City which is totally different.
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AngieDoula wrote: I tried WestsideDoula's formula for figuring out what to charge.
I've tried twice now.
I super struggle with math.
And while I did get a figure a the end, I didn't like the number LOL. At least not until I'm certified and have more local experience. I should add.... That was the minimum rate. 
_________________Westside Doula (in Los Angeles)
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| Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:46 pm |
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AngieDoula
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Joined: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:49 pm Posts: 348 Location: Seattle, WA (Kent)
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WestsideDoula wrote: I should add.... That was the minimum rate.  Assuming I did it right - it turned out to be like $615 which is A LOT of money for folks out here. I'm just at the begining of my career and I just can't justify charging that much while I'm really more interested in getting more births under my belt. Right now, I have my rate as $500 but I offer many discounts that most are eligible for. I'm OK with that.
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cali4niachef
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Joined: Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:41 pm Posts: 988 Location: Delaware
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How much do doulas really make?
Say the doula charges $500, seems like a lot of money right? Not really.
The average birth is 15hrs. Add 4hrs of prenatal visits. 2hrs of telephone suppoort. 2h-3hrs if you accompany them to an appt with their provider, 2hrs postpartum care. Don't forget travel time, could be 1-4hrs. Thats about 25-28hrs you spend with a client, some more and some less.
Take away $150 automatically for gas, child care, supplies, equipment, overhead, etc.
Divide $350 by 25hrs, thats $14 per hour before taxes.
Example: I had on client I only made $4.25/hr because when she hired me I was charging a nominal fee, $200. She needed more birth prepartation prenatally and had a prolonged labor requiring 28hrs of support from me. I spent about 47hrs with her with her all together.
For those who may be thinking becoming a doula would be a lucrative career choice. It is not. LOL.
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magiccitydoula
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Joined: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:10 pm Posts: 34
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cali4niachef wrote: Just starting out. I'm on my 5th client, my 2nd paying client. My current client I charged $200. Meeting with a new client on Wed and charging $250. With each birth I'm increasing my fee by $50 and the topping out at $500. Props! I like that system and I think I may employ it!
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cali4niachef
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Joined: Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:41 pm Posts: 988 Location: Delaware
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Since this post I now charge $400-600, depends on the package choosen.
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