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birthmama
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leticia wrote: thanks for the info. I just found out though, that there are programs out there for people who already have a bachelor's in something other than nursing. If I'm not misunderstanding it, these people will be allowed to skip the whole bachelor's of nursing and working as an RN thing and go right into the nurse-midwifery program. they are also called "direct-entry" schools. Yes, I have found this to be true also. Which is why I went back for the Alternative Medicine Bachelor's first. That way I am studying something that I like and feel I will use in a CPM holistic practice.
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Shannon K.
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This is a great, informative thread ~  to everyone who contributed. I have been struggling with the same question - and since I am already 47 and won't be able to start my next life path for a few more years when I shed my current career, I really don't want to spend the next 7 years in med school. Although I see benefits of having CNMs in hospitals for women birthing there, I think my heart really moves to support families having options outside of the hospital. _________________:heartbeat[size=167]Shannon King:heartbeat[/SIZE] CD (DONA) / HypnoBirthing Practioneer / Lamaze Trained CBE :blowkiss Wife toRob [font=Comic Sans MS][size=100][color=magenta]Marine Mom to son Josh  [/color][/font][/SIZE] Mom to daughter Jenna  Grammie to Jackson Sean 
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leticia
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I am thinking about attending birthingway!! I love the birthing climate of oregon! so very midwifery friendly. can you please tell me a little about the school? How many students are there? Is it a diverse group? What is the socioeconomic/ ethnic background of the women you all ? How do classes and housing work? Sorry for all the questions, but this is a school i'm interested in so it's good to get a personal account from someone. thanks.
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leticia
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birthmama, a degree in alternative med. education is a great path. what school are u attending?
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birthmama
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Everglades University out of Florida! I am three years down and I love the program... a bit on the expensive side, but they had the better accredidations and credintials when I got started.
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heartsopenwide
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 leticia wrote: thanks for the info. I just found out though, that there are programs out there for people who already have a bachelor's in something other than nursing. If I'm not misunderstanding it, these people will be allowed to skip the whole bachelor's of nursing and working as an RN thing and go right into the nurse-midwifery program. they are also called "direct-entry" schools. Can you site one of these schools? I find this hard to believe. I know that their are DEM programs out there but not ones that will give you a CNM... There are however programs that you can get into with a bachelors in another field, but the first year is spend intensely training to get getting your RN license (the equivilent of getting your ASN in 1 year, and you still have to have all the nursing pre-req courses like phyio, anatomy, micro, chem, stats, ect) the rest working on your masters and midwifery. In order to have Nurse Midwifery next to your name you have to be a nurse, and to be a nurse you have to have gone to nursing school.
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| Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:11 am |
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leticia
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I think you might be right. i am a little bit confused as to how this works, whether time is spent doing RN work or not. I will look into it and update everyone.
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littlemamakt
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Loverofthelight wrote: Anybody out there in the same boat or have made a decision that they want to share? I am in need of some advice as to how to make my decision. I see CPM schooling as warm and full of heart where I see CNM schooling as cold but full of scientic info.
HMMM..
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Babycatcher
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heartsopenwide wrote: Can you site one of these schools? I find this hard to believe. I know that their are DEM programs out there but not ones that will give you a CNM...
There are however programs that you can get into with a bachelors in another field, but the first year is spend intensely training to get getting your RN license (the equivilent of getting your ASN in 1 year, and you still have to have all the nursing pre-req courses like phyio, anatomy, micro, chem, stats, ect) the rest working on your masters and midwifery. In order to have Nurse Midwifery next to your name you have to be a nurse, and to be a nurse you have to have gone to nursing school. OHSU In Portland is one of them. You have to have a Bachelor's degree in something, anything I believe, and you can do a "direct entry" into their midwifery program. I spoke to the director about it when I was looking for my path. I do not know, though, if it is a program that is still in effect since CNM entry requirements are changing to having a mandatory Masters degree. Another thing people don't realize is that with this change, the midwifery course went from a 3 year program to a one year program in a lot of places (which is why you see more of the medical model in CNM's now) They are getting 2 years of nursing school to get their masters, and only ONE year of midwifery...instead of leaving the medical model with a bachelor's and attending 3 years of specialized midwifery training. Darn shame. _________________Erika Doula ~ 1st year Midwifery Student Married ~ Mother of three beauties :daisy Spring has sprung! :daisy
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Decaturdoula
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strawberry wrote: If I decided to go to school to become a midwife, I'm going the CPM route for sure. I just feel like its more holistic and its hard to explain...I feel like their is more love there. I don't have a negative opinion of CNM's whatsoever though. They are just as important and beneficial to the birthing mother. I just don't want to be influenced by the obstetric belief system....and while I'm a strong woman, I feel it may trickle in here and there, esp. in the literature and OB's as mentors. Just to clear it up; o.b's are not mentors in the CNM route. CNM's are trained by other CNM's. Granted, you may get one who is just as medically minded as your garden-variety o.b, but you will also get wonderful ones, some of who morked as direct-entry midwives before going to nursing school. _________________"Birth is the epicenter of women's power" - Ani DiFranco  Mama to Isaac, 3 years old, Valentine's day babe DONA certified birth doula, just finished a summer midwife apprenticeship and already missing it
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waterbaby0205
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I'm interested in being a CNM or some other kind of midwife. My hubby wants me to go the CNM route, and plus for liability reasons, that sounds more appealing to me than lay midwifery, etc.
Question about CNM:
We are in the Army, meaning we move and will be moving alot. How will that effect my schooling and in the end (if I decide to go this route), my role as an actual CNM?
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leticia
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it shouldn't affect your work bc cnm's are legal in every state. I'm not sure about schooling, don't know if there are cnm programs in every state, but i'm sure they are more prevalent than cpm programs. even if there isn't one, I'm sure you can find something online. the only problem you may have is the inconsistentcy of having to move around while you're trying to pursue this, but if you and your family are used to it, you can probably get through it just fine.
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TommysMommy
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Leticia,
Here in CA you must have an RN to pursue CNM...but you may have a BS in another area to do the direct entry MSN.
HeartsWideOpen,
May I ask what school you are going to? I have a BS in Pyschology and have worked as a MA in an Oncology office. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to go to nursing school.
_________________Mama to one loving toddler born C/S...TTC baby #2...VBAC hopeful!  My gratitude journal at www.shoredoloveya.blogspot.com
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Amelia
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Just found this today and thought it might be a helpful addition to this thread. It's a direct quote from the American College of Nurse Midwives website. Quote: Q. What if I don't want to become a nurse? There is currently one ACNM ACME-accredited education program for non-nurse midwives. After completing this program, the student will be eligible to take the same certification exam that students of nurse-midwifery programs take. The credential that the midwifery student will earn after passing the exam is Certified Midwife (CM). Currently, CMs are licensed to practice in New York, New Jersey, and Rhode Island. SUNY Downstate ( http://www.hscbklyn.edu/CHRP/Midwif/) offers a midwifery degree for individuals who are not nurses and considers applicants from a variety of backgrounds. _________________Instinctive BeginningstoLabor Professional Birth Doula (certification in progress) Midwives College of Utah student
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marlygage
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Loverofthelight wrote: Hi All!
I have been hinking about starting school for Midwifery for some time now and I have constantly been switching back and forth between becoming a CPM or a CNM. I know I defintely want to do homebirth or birth center and I want to know my clients really well. I kind of like the idea of CNM for insurance reasons but don't know if I can really train in an environment in which birth is viewed as a medical event. Then again as a CPM I would have to earn respect from Medical professionals and expect clients to pay our of pocket. I just don't know which path to take. Anybody out there in the same boat or have made a decision that they want to share? I am in need of some advice as to how to make my decision. I see CPM schooling as warm and full of heart where I see CNM schooling as cold but full of scientic info.
HMMM.. I'm planning to become a cpm because I believe with all my heart that birth belongs the mother and her baby, and that it is inherently safe. Much safer when left alone, instead of meddled with. As much as I respect doctors and cnms, I don't want to work in an environment/social structure that takes birthrights away from those who should own them and instill fear in the woman. I am enrolled, and trust one day I'll graduate from, Ancient Art Midwifery. The program is wonderfully intensive and along with apprenticeship I'll have such a wonderful education by the time I'm finished that I, hopefully, will be able to keep my hands "offa and outta" because I will know when something is truly wrong vs. my own insecurity making me interfere with births.
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